Points to remember in my conversation with ICSD-25 org. Friday 27/6/25
1. Before giving thanks to the organizers and all of you who make possible this event and having being gifted with the times of non-multilateralism in which we dangerously are, I would like to refer to the spirit of peace and unity, that is the soul of UN and its related instances of dialogue and search of integrity for the benefit of all, without leaving no one behind, in which with all kind of the most unimaginable difficulties, we are now, hoping that peace and life on earth will prevail. At the same time I would like to make this call invoking the spirit of Andrés Charrier, Anthropologue and Herpetologist, member of our team, who left us some days ago. May he have a good trip. Thanks to all.
2. The French Marcel Mauss, nephew of Emile Durkheim, one of the first social scientists who we call Anthropologist, in the first decades of XX century, before the discipline as such were imparted in Universities, referring to the etymology of the Greek word, said in a vision of methodology, that after hundred years of pragmatism, and over valuing facts, dismissing theory, we have completely forgot, “method is the journey, after we did it” being the Greek word composed by “Meta: beyond, and Odos: journey”.
I remember this because in this second place, I should give a brief recount of how have we arrived here, because I think is a very coherent next step of a journey I initiate three years ago, when in ICSD-22, I presented “Dialogues of the spirit” to introduce Talanoa Dialogues, a traditional form to resolve conflicts through dialogue, from the Māori peoples of the Pacific, that in the UNFCCC, COP 23/Fidji 2017, was presented and recognized by UN, as a way to resolve policy differends, in Climate Change issues. Next year, to ICSD-23, I wrote “Ouroboros dream, words for a song”, explaining the myth of arrival of the king Hotu Matua and definitive settlement of the island Te Pito o Te Henua, -or Easter Island-, considering that we could find in the shaman´s visionary dreams, who preceded the islands Māori settlements, all over the enormous extension of the Pacific ocean, the equivalent of the quantum property of magnetoreception, which has been recognized by science, as the main explanation of how birds do its migratory flies.
As a fact of synchronicity, or Kairos as the Greeks called it, this year 2025, -as I remind in my presentation paper-, has been established by UNESCO, as the International Year of Quantum Science, to celebrate one hundred years of quantum theory. Both, Quantum Social Change as Transformative Change, and the voice of indigenous and local peoples, as our urgent necessity to recognize, and be able to oppose and adapt, making bridges between science and policy, and diminish the already present triple reality of Climate Chaos, Biodiversity Loss and Contamination, could be recognized as the very being or the ontology of our proposal of “Chile as the Crow Flies”, as well as the acknowledgement of different perspectives and disciplines in our presentation, be stated as the epistemic approach, who in following the three questions of where we are, where are we intending to go, and how we´ll arrive there, who constitute the guide of Talanoa Dialogues, we will find our methodology, enriched by the comprehension of the IPBES inform.
Let's end this nonetheless comprehensive and ambitious point, saying that considering Quantum, we´ll have to consider that the Quantum principle has been mainly recognized -if not only- as a valid explanation to understand qualitative changes in the exact sciences, but not in social and humanity sciences, where paradoxically we find its origin as the idea who preceded the fact, or as the IPBES assessment report puts it clearly, underlaying the importance of vision, to structure and practice.
Trying to make an operational synthesis of the quite different approaches that the definition of qualitative change has had, in the until now opposite perspectives to conceive reality, that the quantum “vision” notion breaks, let´s remind that in the Lankavatara Sutra, Buddha Gautama, the founder of Buddhism, said: “reality is not as we perceive it to be, but neither is something different”… and some 2300 years after, nearer to us now, in the materialistic science side, Karl Mark, write that: “If the phenomenal aspect of things, were coincident with its essence, no investigation on reality could have any sens”.
In this same line of “continuity in the changes”, which characterize our session, we´ll remember our participation in the Science Summit, last year with a somehow-related presentation in which we said the need to create an SDG 0: Peace, without the one, no other SDG will be attainable.
“Once upon a time…”. To begin a story tale, translated to Spanish, runs: “Había una vez…”, but as “avestruz” in Spanish is “ostrich”, there’s a funny form to change the phrase joining syllables.
So, the childish fun to say it, results much more appropriate, considering the actual state of biodiversity on the planet:
“Había una vez… truz”.


